SEEKING A DNA TEST FOR INVERGORDON, SCOTLAND

Seeking a male with surname of Rose who is in a direct male line of descent from a male Rose with documented ancestry dated to the 1700s in Invergordon, Scotland. The family must have resided continously in that area to the present day. A member of the Rose Family Association will share the cost of the test by paying one-half. Qualified candidates are asked to email to Rose Family Association.

TWO SPECIAL ENGLISH OFFERS!!

A member of the Rose Family Association will pay the COMPLETE cost of a DNA test for a male with surname Rose who is in a direct male line of descent from a Rose with documented ancestry dating to the 1600s in Dorset, England. Qualified candidates are asked to email to the Rose Family Association at Rose Family Association,

Through another member of the Rose Family Association we are also offering another free DNA test for a qualified male descendant whose family has lived continuously in England (any location other than London) and who can document their line to the 17th century in England. The kit would be furnished to this testee at no cost; the test consists of swabbing the inside of the cheek. The testee may gain information on their own family as a result, and may match an early United States family. Contact Rose Family Association if you qualify. You must be a Rose male with a direct Rose line (father to son).

SPECIAL NOTICE

We need to locate a male descendant in a direct line (and thus probably bearing the name of Rose) who is descended from the early John Rose family of Solebury twp., Bucks County, Pennsylvania. These Roses were Quakers and are connected to the infamous Col. Thomas E. Rose who later engineered the famous tunnel escape from Libby Prison in Richmond, Virginia during the Civil War. If you know of a male Rose of this family please let us know.

We are also seeking a test from a male in a direct line from the early Gottlieb Rose of Germany, Virginia, and Bullitt and Jefferson Cos., Kentucky. Gottlieb was the father of Capt. Lewis, Mathias and Martin Rose, and others. In spite of knowing descendants of this family, we have been able to find an eligible male for testing. Your help with this would be appreciated.

We are seeking a male descending in a direct line from Elijah Rose who was born ca 1744, and died 11 December 1823, in Rush, New York. He was buried in Mendon, New York. His first wife is said to be Anna Curtis. He may also have had a wife named Anna Sperry. He is believed to be related to Chloe Rose who married Deacon John Adams. We would very much like to get a DNA test. We have a member who has offered to pay for this test, if a qualifying male can be found. If you are descended from this Elijah, please send details of your descent.

EXPLANATION OF DNA PROJECT
The Rose Family Association has a very large DNA family study. The Project Administrator David W. Brown, with others, organized a study and successfully proved the ancestry of their Samuel Rose of Dutchess County, New York and Bennington County, Vermont. Subsequently they agreed to continue the project for the Association. As Administrator of the Rose DNA study David is handling the results, and answers questions. The Rose Family Association is contacting various male descendants of Rose families to ask if they are interested in participating. In the article following, David Brown explains how the study works.

What do we hope to learn? And what has been discovered so far? Just a few examples will demonstrate why we are excited. John Rose (Sr.) had a son John born in 1750 in Southampton Co., Virginia, and a son Sterling Rose born 1757 in King and Queen Co., Virginia, well proven by the revolutionary pension affidavits of these two sons. By other records, two additional sons were established, i.e., Benjamin Rose and Hosea Rose. The latter went into eastern Tennessee in the 1770s, and among his children were sons McKenzie Rose (Roane Co., Tenn.) and Elisha Rose (Knox Co., Tenn.). Years of research on Hosea's family had not established the ancestry of John Rose Sr., though it was assumed they were descended from one of the early Virginia Rose immigrants. In our DNA project, a male Rose descendant of each of the above named sons of Hosea Rose were tested. And much to the surprise of everyone, they closely match DNA from a descendant of the early Robert Rose family of Branford, Connecticut! None had suspected a connection to New England in this southern family. The match would indicate a connection BEFORE the families came to the colonies, but nevertheless, is important for research. Now the descendants can work to establish the link to each other, which would probably never have been considered without the DNA. Further, a descendant of Frederick Rose of Wayne and Hardin Counties, Tennessee, Orange County, North Carolina and Sussex County, Virginia has tested showing a relationship to the Rose family of Branford, Connecticut. It is possible that John Rose, (father of Hosea Rose) and Frederick Rose, are still descended from William 1 Rose of Surry County, Virginia, but that William 1 Rose is somehow related to Robert Rose of Branford, Connecticut. More tests are in the works on these families.

In another instance, a descendant of Bennett Rose of King George Co., Virginia (who went into Surry Co., North Carolina and his son Abner later to Tennessee) was tested and matched closely to a Rose in Canada who has proven ancestors from Invergordon, Scotland. Thus, the Bennett Rose family can now pursue those leads.

These are examples of the surprises and leads that can come from DNA testing. More will be posted as information is received. For more explanation of the project, cost, and who's eligible.

SEEKING SOME FAMILIES
Though we seek male descendants (carrying the name of Rose or its variations) of all families, additionally, we seek descendantsof the following:

• Gottlieb Rose of Jefferson and Bullitt Counties, Kentucky
• John McRose of North Carolina and Dickenson Co., Virginia
• Reuben Rose of Claiborne Co., Tennessee, previously of Virginia
• John Rose of Washington Co., Tennessee and Clay Co., Indiana who m. Mary Reeder; father of Allen T. Rose, James M. Rose, John W. Rose, Elihu Rose, and others.
• James Rose of Cumberland Co., New Jersey
• Robert Rose (wife Dorothy) of 1640s in Suffolk Co., New York (Long Island). We need a branch that remained for someetime on Long Island, and we also need a branch that went into Hunterdon Co., New Jersey descending evidently through John 2 Rose.
• Daniel Rose of New England and Randolph Co., Arkansas
  

ALSO NEED TESTS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES!!
We seek Roses still living in Scotland, England, Germany, Holland, Ireland, or any other country. Your DNA may not only match others of your country, but with those of another country, providing clues on origin. Do you live in England? Your DNA may match the Scottish group. If you live in one province in Germany, your DNA may match with a Rose or Roos of another province, giving you both valuable leads. Or, if you live in another country, you may match those of some U.S. Roses. If so, the U.S. branch would get clues on their origin in another country, and the Rose of the other country would get clues on a U.S. branch that may have "disappeared." You might find "long lost" American branches by participating in the project!

BUT REMEMBER
Though we do have a need for tests on specific families as above indicated, we ALSO seek tests from all other Rose families. Males who are from a direct line of Rose, father to son, are eligible for DNA testing. (In a few cases they might not even be now carrying the name of Rose if there was an adoption, etc. The important point is that they are from an unbroken Rose father to son line. That is, the biological father was a Rose.

NEW OPTION FOR PAYMENT!!
For those who want to pay through PAYPAL, just email to The Rose Family Association
and let us know. The Rose Family Association will then send you an email with the total cost and you can then use the link in the email to arrange the PAYPAL payment. You do not need to be a registered member of PAYPAL to do this. Or, if you prefer, when you order the kit FamilyTreeDNA, the Houston firm, will bill you and you can then either send them a check or use their credit card payment.

Notice on England Roses of Suffolk County
Usually we only post matches on the website, though twice a year in the Rose Family Bulletin we publish the full results of all tests for members. However, we have had an interesting test that will interest Roses who search for their English ancestors. We now have a test from a Rose descendant of a Rose from London who went into Suffolk County, England in the mid-1700s. There is no match at this time, but those who have an interest in Roses of that area may want to take a DNA test to tell if there is amatch with this early Rose family. If so, an exchange of family information could help both.

AARON ROSE OF ROSEBURG, OREGON

We usually only post the results of tests which match to this website, but in this case, we are including an important test even though it did NOT match. This is a test from a descendant of Aaron Rose of Roseburg, Oregon, previously of Ulster County, New York and Michigan. Aaron Rose was the son of John and Hannah (Palmiteer) Rose of Ulster County, New York. This test effectively proves that Aaron Rose is NOT a descendant of the ROOSA family of Ulster County, which had already been suspected since records indicate that his father John's family came out of New Jersey before Ulster County. However, at this point, neither does the test match with any others. We seek another test from this family of Rose., for comparison.
The above is only a brief listing of recent tests. The full results of all the markers, grouped by families, appears twice yearly in issues of the quarterly Rose Family Bulletin, June and December.

Rose Family DNA Project
Explanation of This Study

The purpose of our Rose Family DNA Project is to assist any Rose family members interested in using this new technology to further their efforts to ascertain their ancestry. We also want to establish any relationships that may exist between the early Roses that emigrated to America, and anything that can be gained regarding their origins.

These tests can only be done on all-male Rose direct descendants, thus only males still carrying the Rose surname (or a variation of it, i.e. Roosa). If you are not such a Rose, you may have a close relative who is, which would in essence verify your own connections, and those of other relatives.

Family Tree DNA (FT DNA) of Houston, Texas is doing the testing for us. We are recommend the 37 marker test to our participants,. The cost is $149.00 (plus $4.00 shipping in the U.S.). To get this special group prices, your kit must be ordered through the Rose project.

The testing is done on DNA from the "Y chromosome" which is found only in males. This DNA is passed directly from father to son, with no input from the female parent. It, and the "markers" on it, remain virtually identical for many generations, with only very slight mutations over time. Thus, anyone descended directly, all-male, from someone up to at least 500 years ago will have extremely similar Y-DNA markers. The testing procedure is very simple, amounting to brushing the inside of the cheek with a sterile brush provided in the kit. Complete instructions, an invoice and a waiver form are also included with the kit.

Through the many Rose tests to date, we have been able to establish "Y-DNA fingerprints" of several early Roses. Your results can be reasonably expected to have "matches" among these, thus proving relationships to them, through a common Rose ancestor. Note, this testing cannot show exactly what the relationship is, nor the lineage back to the progenitor, from your earliest known. However, they can certainly provide a focus for further research. For example, if you have a "dead end" Rose during the 1800's, it can prove if you are associated with Robert Rose of early Connecticut, or one of many others.

The kits are sent out directly by FT-DNA, and returned directly to them at their Houston firm as well. Results are provided directly to you, the testee, and also to us. We review them, not only for matches, but close similarities, and notify you of the earliest known ancestry of any matches or close matches that are found. Your results are also kept for potential matches in the future, of which you will be notified as well. The Rose Family Association does not benefit financially from this DNA study - all funds are for FT-DNA for their analysis of the tests and are sent directly to them. The Rose Family Association is not a part of the FT-DNA organization, and only uses that firm to conduct the testing. The Association is not responsible for any of the actions of FT-DNA, but has been well satisfied with the handling of the testing by that firm. The names and addresses of all testees will be known to the editor of the Rose Family Association, and to the Administrators. Those handling the results for the Rose Family Association will however only use the assigned number of the test kit and the name of the earliest known Rose for publication (in print or on the web).Your own identity is kept confidential by the Association even in contacts with other Rose descendants unless you prefer differently. Only the name of your earliest known ancestry is provided to others. The only exception is that if there is a match or close match, the Association will send your email address to those who are closely matched. (The waiver of FT-DNA should be signed and returned to them with the kit. With that waiver FT-DNA will provide you with the email addresses of those with an exact match.) Though the Rose Family Association will not post or publish your name, the testee is free to give out the information from his own test to anyone he wishes, either privately or publicly. Many prefer to do so, in the hope that the information will assist other researchers.

Historical relationships established is of general interest to all Roses, and will be described in future issues of the Rose Family Bulletin. We will also publish tables of results so each participant can see them for comparative purposes and further understanding.

It is certainly hopeful that this would not only be helpful to those who participate, but also establish many heretofore unknown relationships between early Rose families. It has, in fact, already done so in some cases.

The project is not limited to Roses of the United States. Anyone in any other country who meets the above criteria (male Rose of a continuous Rose line) can participate.

GENERAL ANALYSIS OF TESTS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED
For easy referencing, each family group with one or more matches has been assigned a Group letter. In the quarterly Rose Family Bulletin periodically the complete charts showing all markers are published, and that set of charts is also grouped by these designations. The full charts are published twice yearly, in the June issue and the December issue.

GROUP A
ROBERT ROSE OF BRANFORD & WETHERFIELD, CONN.
JOHN WESLEY ROSE, ERIE & MONROE COS., NEW YORK
JOHN ROSE OF MICHIGAN AND IOWA
JOSIAH ROSE OF MONROE & ORANGE COS., NEW YORK
JOHN ROSE OF ELKHART CO., INDIANA
FREEMAN HENRY ROSE OF ILL., SD, WISC.

This group of Roses descend from the immigrant Robert Rose, b. ca 1594, m. Margery,lived Wethersfield and Branford, Connecticut. Those tested include the following.
1. Descendant of Robert 1, Daniel 2, 3, Jehiel 4, Timothy 5 Rose
2. John Wesley Rose, 1830,. of Erie and Monroe Cos., New York
3. John Rose (m. Phylinda Norton) of Mich. and Iowa, f/o John Rose of Madison, KS.
4. Josiah Rose b. 1831, of Monroe, Orange, N.Y., and Ill.
5. Robert Rose of Branford, thrugh the later Justus Rose branch.
6. John Rose , 1789, liv. Elkhart, Ind.
7. Freeman Henry Rose (m. Jane Bailey), parents of Henry Freeman Rose b. 1835 (m. Mary Hocum), parents of John Frederick Rose b1882 (m. Gertrude Grace Olmstead). Fa mily lived in Cook Co., Illinois, Pennington Co., South Dakota, Wisconsin, and other localities.

FURTHER NOTE ON THE BRANFORD, CONNECTICUT ROSES BELOW.

GROUP A-1
WILLIAM 1 ROSE OF SURRY CO., VIRGINIA
ELIJAH ROSE OF DINWIDDIE CO., VIRGINIA
JOHN ROSE OF SOUTHAMPTON CO., VIRGINIA AND SURRY CO., NORTH CAROLINA
ROBERT ROSE OF EDGECOMBE CO., NORTH CAROLINA
THEOPHILUS ROSE OF WAYNE CO., NORTH CAROLINA
MICAJAH ROSE OF EDGECOMBE CO., NORTH CAROLINA

It now seems clear that this group in our DNA testing project belongs to William 1 Rose of Surry County, Virginia. The excellent paper trail of the line through William 1, Richard 2, and Richard 3, is very strong. It is that strong paper trail of the above which establishes that this group is the William 1 Rose of Surry County, Virginia family. The result is that anyone who can solidly prove a connection by paper to either of the above would belong to this Group A-1. That connection can be through strong documentation to either of the above, or through DNA testing that would match.

This group also has some type of tie to the Branford and Wethersfield, Connecticut Roses, through DNA testing. However, the connection is evidently before their removal to the colonies. The actual connection is not known.

Those associated with Group A-1:

a. Elijah Rose of Dinwiddie Co., Virginia

b. Frederick Rose of Wayne and Hardin Cos., Tenn. (son of Richard Rose of Sussex Co., Va.)

c. John Rose of Va., and Surry/Wilkes Cos., N.C. (father of Benjamin, John, Sterling and Hosea Rose); this includes descendants of Hosea's son McKenzie Rose, John Rose, and Elisha Rose.

d. Robert Rose of Edgecombe Co., N.C. (father of Reuben and Matthew of Robertson Co., Tenn., and others). Includes tests from descendants of Reuben Rose of Robertson Co., Tenn., known son of Robert Rose.

e. Theophilus Rose of 1762-1765, liv. Wayne Co., N.C., m. Christiana --

f. Micajah Wm R (m. Eliz Ogdon) 1830 Edgecombe NC/KY/IL (possibly from Wm M Rose 1755VA; Micajah 1798NC) is a perfect 25-25 match with most of Group A1.

g. A descendant of Allen born ca 1810, lived Greene Co., Mo., father of Isaac Allen 1847 etc., is a perfect 25 marker match with Group A-1. [Some believe he is a descendant of Burrell Rose of Nash Co., N.C. though this has not been documented.]

h. A descendant of Robert Lee Rose (son of Hezekiah 7, Frederick 6, 5, William 4, Richard 3, 2, William 1 of Surry County, Virginia is a perfect match on 12 markers to Group A1.

i. A descendant of McKenzie Rose of Roane Co., Tenn. through his son Elisha Napoleon Rose (who m. Lucinda Wilson) matches Group A-1. McKenzie was a son of Hosea Rose, and grandson of John Rose of Va. and Surry Co., N.C.

j.  Wm Amos (Morning Evans) 1780, Nash Co., N.C., father of Wm Amos (Darcas Wilson) 1827 S.C. and Tenn. Perhaps connected to Burrell Rose

k. A descendant of Dr. Peter Rose (who married Polly Sammis) matches with Group A, the Robert Rose family of Wethersfield and Branford, Connecticut. It had been suspected that this was Dr. Peter Rose's family, but the test gave the first confirmation. Peter Rose was born sometime before 1777. He is probably the son of Samuel 5 Rose (Daniel 4, Daniel 3, Daniel 2, Robert 1) of the Connecticut family of Rose. [See the homepage of this website for a listing of the family report on this family.]

l. A descendant of Robert Rose 1775 of Nash Co., North Carolina, father of Allen born ca 1810; father of Isaac Allen 1847 etc., is a perfect 25 marker match with Group A-1. Robert possibly is related to Burrell Rose of Nash Co., North Carolina, though there is no documentary proof.

m. A descendant of Robert Lee Rose (son of Hezekiah 7, Frederick 6, 5, William 4, Richard 3, 2, William 1 of Surry County, Virginia is a perfect match on 12 markers to Group A1.

n. A test from a descendant of Wilson Rose, born 12 May 1838 Ky., d. 21 May 1918, Madison Co., Ark., m. Emaline Reed, at 37 markers, is a match with Group A1's John Rose of Surry Co., N.C. The parents of Wilson Rose were William "Buck" Rose and Nancy Osbourne of Lawrence Co., Ky.

FRIEDRICK ROOSE

One 37 marker test and two 12 marker tests from Friedrich Roose (1712-1785) and his wife Christina, who came on the Osgood (Rotterdam to Philadelphia) 9/29/1750, match closely with Group A1, the Virginia group descended from William 1 Rose of Surry County, Virginia. These Roose descendants trace this family back to Melchoir Ruoss 1 (c1600-1665) of Wittershausen, Baden-Wurtemberg, Germany, through Mattheaus 2, Johannes 3, Friedrick Roose 4. All are actually descendants of his grandson John by three different sons. This GroupA-2 is also closely matched with Group A, the New England Rose family of Robert Rose, though their match is even closer to the Virginia group.
This is more than surprising, and also appears to indicate the Robert of New England and the Virginia group (probably from William of Surry) could have been from the continent much more recently than the Anglo-Saxon invasion. (Or, that the Roose family on the continent immigrated there from England.) The Group A2 test at 37 markers matches one of the tests from Group A1 on 22/25 markers, and 32/37.

GROUP B
JOHN ROSE OF VIRGINIA AND
OF FAIRFIELD AND PICKAWAY COS., OHIO
WILLIAM TEMPLETON ROSE, OHIO, TANEY CO., MISSOURI

Three tests, two from the son Anthony Rose of Pickaway Co., Ohio and one from a brother of Anthony Rose match. John Rose (the father) m. Dorothy and was an early settler in Fairfield County, Ohio, coming from the Shenandoah valley in Virginia. The family is believed to tbe German. See also Group BX below.
In August 2006 an exciting new match - this one through William Templeton Rose, born ca 1823, liv. Ohio, Taney Co., Mo., married 1st Hester Ann Odell, m. 2nd Irena Tabor, m. 3rd Deborah Clark.
In another test in August, 2006, a descendant of Jesse Rose (wife Mary), he b. c1835, father of Jesse A. Rose b. 1875, is a close match to this group. Evidence indicates this Jesse is related to William Templeton Rose above.
A descendant of John Rose of Pickaway and Fairfield Counties, Ohio, through Jacob Rose (Jr.) born 1816, married Mary A. (---) Beach, and through the latter's son Theodore J. Rose, matches with this group.

Group B: Another descendant of William Templeton Rose is a close match in Group B, verifying his line from John Rose 1765 (m Dorothy) and John Jr. (m. Rebecca) 1800. The DNA of this group very strongly indicates they are descended of Jan Brouwer (Brewer), who emigranted from Amsterdam to Flatlands, N.Y. in 1657.

GROUP BX
ABRAHAM ROSE OF KEOKUK, IOWA

We now have two tests from descendants of Abraham Rose who m. Sarah Mooney, he b. ca 1805, lived Keokuk, Iowa. It had been thought that Abraham was a son of John and Dorothy Rose of Shenandoah Valley, Virginia and Fairfield Co., Ohio (Group B). However, though the two tests of descendants of Abraham match each other, they do not match descendants of John and Dorothy. This suggests that if there is a connection to John Rose of Group B, as had been thought, it may be that Abraham was adopted. (One of these tests has been upgraded to 37 markers, and further confirms the high liklihood that Abraham Rose was a Good/Goode. He may have been adopted or lived with the family of Abraham Rose.)

GROUP C
WILLIAM ROSE (WIFE MARTHA) OF YORK CO. AND SURRY CO., VIRGINIA AND JOHNSTON/WAYNE COS., NORTH CAROLINA,
THOMAS ROSE OF SUMTER CO., SOUTH CAROLINA,
FRANCIS M. ROSE OF GILES CO., TENNESSEE AND NORTH CAROLINA
SAMUEL ROSE OF MADISON CO., KENTUCKY
JAMES ROSE OF CLAIBORNE CO., TENNESSEE AND GRUNDY CO., MISSOURI

This family group is becoming a significant group as more and more tests from heretofore unknown Roses are matching!

DNA from a descendant of William Rose (b. early 1700s, d. ca 1785) of York and Surry Counties, Virginia, father of John, Benjamin and James Rose who went into Johnston and Wayne Counties, North Carolina, matches DNA with a descendant of James Rose (b. 1804-05, w. Mary) of Lee County, Virginia, Claiborne County, Tennessee and Grundy County, Missouri. Two tests - one through William's son John and another through William's son Benjamin match. If a descendant of James Rose wishes to take a test, it would round out the testing through the three sons.

A descendant of Thomas Rose b. ca 1776, who lived in Sumter Co., South Carolina is a match with a descendant of William Rose of York and Surry Cos., Virginia (wife Martha). There had been no indication previously of any connection to South Carolina Roses.

Also connected in some manner to this group is James Rose (b. 1803-04) of Claiborne Co., Tennessee,Grundy Co., Missouri, and Lamar Co., Texas.

Another very big surprise. A descendant of Samuel Rose b. 1780-90 (wife Sally Freeman?) of Madison and Jackson Counties, Kentucky matches with this group.

And, a major surprise, Francis M. Rose (2nd wife Betty Cutbirth) of Giles Co., Tennessee, is also a match to this group of Roses. Francis was previously of North Carolina, probably of Burke County, and was also in Knox Co., Kentucky for a short time before removing to Tennessee.

Another test by a descendant of Francis M. Rose of Giles Co., Tennessee brings William Rose of York & Surry Cos., Va. even closer to Francis M. Rose of Tennessee.

A descendant of Benjamin and Melinda (Turnbow) Rose of Giles Co., Tenn. match Group C, as expected. Benjamin was a son of Francis M. Rose of that county.

A descendant of Cornelius Rose, a son of Francis M. Rose by the latter's first marriage, matches this group.

GROUP D
THE PALATINE-GERMAN/HOLLAND
WILLIAM ROSE OF ONTARIO, CANADA
ANDREAS ROSE OF NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY
ANDREW ROSE OF BUCKS AND MERCER COS., PENNSYLVANIA
JOANNA ROSE OF STONINGTON, CONNECTICUT

Descendant of Robert Rose of Harrison Co., Ohio (m. Sarah and/or Sophia), previously of Lancaster Co., Pa.

A descendant of William Rose 1806 Ontario, Canada, wife Mary Ann, father of Patrick Rose b. c1842, matches with this group.

A descendant of Andreas Roos of New York and New Jersey through his son John/Johannis Rose of New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

A descendant of Andrew Rose of Bucks and Mercer Cos., Pa. (m Hannah Chapman) matches with this group. This was a huge surprise.

A descendant of Joanna Rose (husband may be a Thomas Rose) of Stonington Connecticut in mid-1600s. Connection would be very distant, probably Middle Ages. Experts in the field made this determination.

A descendant of Harvey Rose of Sandy Co., Pa. (wife Emily) matches with this Group D. Harvey was a known descendant of Andrew Rose of Mercer and Bucks Cos., Pa.

GROUP E
WILLIAM ROSE WHO M. SARAH ELMENDORF OF ULSTER CO., NEW YORK
AND JONATHAN ROSE OF NEW YORK AND LUZERNE CO., PENNSYLVANIA
BENJAMIN ROSE OF GUERNSEY CO., OHIO
JOHN WILLIAM ROSE

A descendant of William Rose who married Sarah Elmendorf, is NOT a Roosa. There had been speculation as to whether this William Rose was a Roosa because of location, but DNA confirms that he was not. The descendant who tested DOES match with a descendant of Jonathan A. Rose whose family went into Pennsylvania (Luzerne County area). There had been speculation that William Rose who married Sarah Elmendorf was the same William who was son of William Rose and Annatje Wolven of Ulster County, New York. However, there were doubts on that connection, which are now reinforced by a descendant. It appears that William Rose who married Sarah Elmendorf is not connected to William Rose who married Annatje Wolven. This leaves the possibility still open that William who married Annatje Wolfen IS a Roosa. DNA is needed from a proven male descendant of the latter for comparison.

A descendant of Vincent Franklin Rose (son of Benjamin Rose and Sarah Whaling) b. ca 1845, of Guernsey Co., Ohio, matches with Group E, the William Rose who m. Sarah Elmendorf family of New York. This was a complete surprise!

A descendant of John William Rose of Ulster Co., N.Y., m. Eva May [Barton, see 1930 Ulster Co. census], father of Charles Henry (m. Ruth Fosket) 1920) matches closely with Group E, William Rose & Sarah Elmendorph.

GROUP F
THOMAS ROSE SR. OF GRANVILLE CO., NORTH CAROLINA
THOMAS ROSE OF WILKES, ELBERT AND FRANKLIN COS., GEORGIA
COL. WILLIAM ROSE OF GILES CO., TENNESSEE, son of
JOHN ROSE OF BRUNSWICK CO., VIRGINIA
WILLIAM ROSE OF SMITH CO., TENNESSEE
ANDERSON ROSE OF MECKLENBURG CO., VIRGINIA; PERSON CO., N.C.
HENRY ROSE OF GA., KY., AND POPE CO., ILLINOIS
DRURY ROSE OF FRANKLIN CO., GEORGIA

Several who have tested match as members of the Thomas Rose Sr. family of Granville Co., North Carolina. It has become one of the significant early groups of Roses with some surprising matches. However, it should be noted that the ancestry of Thomas Rose Sr. is not known. He is not from William 1 Rose of Surry County, Virginia (see Group A-1).

1. Descendant of William Rose (m. Elizabeth Merritt) of Whitley Co., Kentucky. He was a revolutionary pensioner. William was son of William and Amy (Langston) Rose, and grandson of Thomas Rose Sr. of Granville Co., North Carolina.

2. Descendant of Drury Rose of Wilkes/Elbert/Franklin Co., Georgia, probable son of Thomas Rose. It is unclear if this Thomas Rose is Thomas Rose Jr. of Granville Co., North Carolina (m., perhaps 1st, to Lydia), or whether he is son of a Thomas Rose Jr., son of Thomas Rose who married Lydia. Drury therefore may be a grandson of Thomas Rose of Granville Co. who m. Lydia, or a great-grandson.

3. Col. William Rose of Giles Co., Tennessee and Brunswick Co., Virginia, born 1779, (married Elizabeth Winfield Meredith), lived Giles Co., Tennessee. (This match was a major surprise.) Since Col. William Rose was a son of John and Elizabeth (Davis) Rose of Brunswick County, Virginia, that identifies that family, too.

4. Descendant of Thomas Rose (m. Ann Bronner/Brawner in 1809 Franklin Co., Georgia), later of Pope Co., Illinois.

5. Descendant of William Rose of Smith Co., Tenn. (m. Parthena Chandler) tests with the above Granville Roses. Another surprise!

6. Descendant of Thomas Rose of Vanderburgh Co., Indiana, through his son Henry Rose, matched with other Granville County Roses. This Thomas had three marriages and almost thirty children.

7. Descendant of Anderson Rose of Mecklenburg Co., Virginia and Person Co., North Carolina matches with the Granville County group.

8. A test from a descendant of Henry Rose (b. 1750-60, m. Jemima) of Wilkes/Elbert Cos., Ga., Ky., and later of Pope Co., Illinois tests with Group F. In fact, according to our Project Administrator David Brown, he believes from the markers that Henry Rose was very closely related to Anderson Rose of Mecklenburg County, Virginia and Person County, North Carolina (see Group F). It could even be possible that they were father and son! A real surprise.

9. A descendant of Ezekiel Rose, a son of William and Parthena (Chandler) Rose of Smith Co., Tennessee matches this group.

GROUP G
REV. ROBERT ROSE OF ALBEMARLE CO., VIRGINIA AND NAIRNSHIRE, SCOTLAND (THE KILRAVOCK GROUP)
ALEXANDER ROSE OF SCOTLAND AND PERSON CO., NORTH CAROLINA,
JAMES ROSE (w. Margaret McBean) OF INVERNESS, SCOTLAND (FAMILY LATER IN DELAWARE CO., NEW YORK), and
JOHN ROSE (w. Margaret Smith) OF ANGUS, SCOTLAND
ALEXANDER ROSE OF ANGUS, SCOTLAND

A descendant of Alexander Rose of Scotland and Person County, North Carolina is a close match to a descendant of John Rose and Margaret Smith of Angus, Scotland, though the connection is probably back in Scotland. Additionally, these Roses are a close match to James Rose (w. Margaret McBean) of Inverness, Scotland, and with the well-known Rev. Robert Rose of Morayshire, Scotland and Colonial Virginia.

A descendant of Alexander Rose born ca1780, died before 1841, married 4 April 1807 at Oathlaw, Angus, to Elizabeth Whyte born ca 1780, died 19 February 1860 at Froickheim, Angus, Scotland, matches Group G of the DNA project. Their son was James Rose, christened 1 August 1808, Tannadice, died before 1863, married 4 June 1831, Invekeilor, to Mary Reid. This test proves that descendants in Western Australia are part of the Roses of Kilravock.

A most interesting connection to Group G, this Canadian Rose family have a connection to the Roses of Kilravock in Scotland. This line descends from Hugh Rose (the 9th Baron of Kilravock) b1485 who married Margaret Urquhart, parents of Hugh Rose (the 10th Baron) b1507 who m. Catherine Falconer, and William (the 11th Baron) b1545 who m. Lilas May. The line continues with David b1592, James b1642, William b1682, James b1708, and Donald b1752 who m. Ann Fraser.

A descendant of Alexander Rose (m. Mary Carey) c1860 Nova Scotia to Lynn, Mass. in 1880, father of Edward William Rose (m. Rose Doran), matches with Group G, the Roses of Kilravock, Scotland.

A descendant of Hugh Rose (m. Marjorie Clark), b 1738, of Inverness, Scotland and Delaware Co., NY through his son Alexander Rose (m. Hulda Wright) is a very good match to Group G, the Kilravock, Scotland Roses. The numbers tend to indicate this line would likely tie into the Barons between 1500 and 1700, according to our Project Administrator David Brown, though David says he can't be more specific.

GROUP H
WILLIAM ROSE OF GALLIA AND LAWRENCE COS., OHIO

We have three tests with matches, descendants of William Rose of Lawrence Co., Ohio through his 2nd wife Winnifred Neal. These tests show a connection to each other, but thus far, do not show a connection to other Roses. We do not yet have a DNA test through one of William's sons by his first marriage to Mary Adkins.

GROUP I
THOMAS ROSE OF MONTGOMERY CO., VIRGINIA & LAWRENCE CO., OHIO
NATHANIEL ROSE OF ESTILL CO., KENTUCKY
WILLIAM ROSE OF DODGE CO., WISCONSIN
JOSEPH ROSE OF MARSHFIELD, MASSACHUSETTS
JOHN ROSE OF MONTGOMERY CO., VA. AND GALLIA CO., OHIO

A descendant of Thomas Rose (b. ca 1800) of Montgomery Co., Virginia and Lawrence Co., Ohio matched with Nathaniel Rose of Estill Co., Kentucky (who m. Esther [Dorton?]). There had previously been no indication that these families were connected. And, in a further development, Thomas Rose and Nathaniel Rose (who match 25/25) also match 23/25 with a descendant of William Rose born 1817 New York, lived Dodge Co., Wisconsin and Marion Co., Iowa. And, another New York connection has surfaced. A descendant of Thomas Harlow Rose b. 1814 and who lived in Monroe and Orleans Cos., New York is a match. And, in a new development, a descendant of the St. Lawrence Co., New York Roses (who descend from the early Joseph Rose of Scituate, Massachusetts) also matches this group.

In another match, a descendant of Thomas Harlow Rose (b. 1814, lived Monroe and Orleans Cos., New York and in Michigan) is related to Nathaniel Rose (m. Esther Dorton, lived Estill Co., Kentucky) and Thomas Rose (m. Margaret Neal) b. 1800, of Montgomery Co., Virginia and Lawrence Co., Ohio.

Another match: John Rose born 1775 or earlier who m. in 1790 Elizabeth Stephens, of Montgomery Co., Virginia and Gallia Co., Ohio. This John is possibly the son of an Edward Rose. One of the matches is through Sebird 2 Rose.

A descendant of Zachariah Taylor Rose (m. Elizabeth Mercer) of Muhlenberg Co., Kentucky matches this Group I. The background of Zachariah Taylor Rose is not known but clearly there is a connection to this group of Roses.

The following is information from David Brown, Project Administrator of the Rose DNA project, regarding the above Group I. David has carefully worked with the tests on this group, interpreting them and obtaining assistance of a Population Geneticist. David tells us that Joseph Rose's DNA Pattern (Haplogroup Q) is very rare in Northwest European populations, and often connected to Native Americans. In fact, for the first couple years of the Rose project tests, the geneticists advised that Joseph Rose was actually from "Q3" which is exclusive to Native American. This was a shock, says David, "as the facts surrounding Joseph certainly strongly inferred English heritage." These conclusions were then found to be in error, correcting them to Haplogroup Q, which allows for the possible English connection. This was largely established by special tests being completed on the samples from three descendants of Joseph Rose. David continues: "Although we still cannot say with absolute certainty that his [Joseph Rose's] recent origins were Native American or British Isles, it appears more likely the latter." David is hopeful that the ongoing project by the National Geographic Society and Family Tree DNA will provide a test that will be definitive on that point in the next couple years.

A descendant of Nathaniel 1 Rose (of Estill Co., Kentucky), John 2 Rose, Lorenzo 3 Rose matches
Group I.

Two new results from descendants of Joseph Rose of early Marshfield, Plymouth Colony provide us with more insight into his family. Our first DNA tests from several years ago raised a considerable suspicion that the male origins of this family could be Native American. However, if it were indeed, this Native blood may have been introduced by an adoption or illegitimacy since Joseph, as all those tested previously may have been descended through one branch of the line, son Edward. There was even speculation regarding a specific "Anglicized" Native, who was loosely associated with the family. However, one of these new tests turns out to be a well documented descendant of another Marshfield resident of the time, one Job Low, who was born there in 1677. His DNA pattern is identical to those in this Rsoe family. It turns out the courts had penalized Joseph Rose for having "too much familarities" with the wife of John Low, who was Elizabeth (Howland), mother of Job. Thus, Job Low certainly appears to be a son of Joseph Rose, and confirms that Edward Rose was as well. Therefore, IF there were Native blood, Joseph's father was the source.

GROUP J
LEMUEL ROSE OF LONG ISLAND AND
HENRY ROSE OF ONONDAGA CO., NEW YORK
BENJAMIN ROSE OF OTSEGO CO., NEW YORK
JEREMIAH AROSE OF LI AND NEW JERSEY
CHARLIE BYRD ROSE OF VIRGINIA AND NEW JERSEY

A descendant of Benjamin Rose b. 1760 Ct. or R.I., lived Otsego Co., N.Y., m. Judith Clark, matches with a descendant of Henry Rose b. 1805, of Onondaga Co., N.Y.
And a further surprise - a descendant of Lemuel Rose born 1754 in the Town of Huntington, Suffolk Co., New York (Long Island), who married Amy Wicks, is also connected to the Otsego/Onondaga County Roses.
In another test, a descendant of Jermiah AROSE (spelled that way) of 1762 Long Island, New York, family later to South Amboy, New Jersey, matches this group. Of the group, he more closely matches Lemuel Rose above.
A descendant of Charlie Byrd Rose (m. Fan Carter), Va., father of Willis Rose, Bridgton, N.J. matches this group but the common ancestor may be back 300-400 years ago.

GROUP K
THE LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK GROUP
DAVID ROSE LATER OF WASHINGTON CO., MARYLAND
EZEKIEL ROSE OF HUNTERDON CO., NEW JERSEY
ROBERT ROSE OF FREDERICK CO., VIRGINIA
ISRAEL ROSE OF ORANGE CO., NEW YORK
JOHN ROSE OF WOLFE CO., KENTUCKY
JOHN ROSE OF SALEM CO., NEW JERSEY
WILLIAM ROSE OF ORANGE CO., NEW YORK
CHARLES ROSE OF SOMERSET CO., PENNSYLVANIA
SAMUEL ROSE OF BURLINGTON CO., NEW JERSEY
MATTHIAS ROSE OF ALBANY, NEW YORK AND CANADA
ABRAHAM LACY ROSE OF NEW YORK AND FRANKLIN CO., OHIO
EZEKIEL ROSE OF WASHINGTON CO., PENNSYLVANIA
TYCHICUS ROSE, WASHINGTON CO., PENNSYLVANIA
JOHN ROSE OF GREENE CO., PENNSYLVANIA
WILLIAM ROSE OF OTSEGO CO., NEW YORK
SAMUEL ROSE OF ONTARIO, CANADA
DANIEL ROSE OF RANDOLPH CO., ARKANSAS
HENRY MATTHIAS ROSE OF BARRON CO., WISC.
EMANUEL ROSE, N.C., FANNIN CO., GEORGIA
JAMES ELLIS ROSE OF PRINCE WILLIAM CO., VIRGINIA
SELAH P. ROSE of MAINE
VINE BALDWIN ROSE of Minnesota

Tests on several early Roses closely match several families, all of whom appear to have Long Island connections.

1. David Rose (m. Hannah Par) supposed to be from Long Island. Documented in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania and Washington County, Maryland. Family later to Trumbull and Mahoning Counties, Ohio.

2. Ezekiel Rose (m. Mary Fidler) of Hunterdon County, New Jersey (and including descendant Charles Rose of Monongalia Co., Virginia)

3. Robert Rose (m. Johana --) of Frederick County, Virginia, and probably earlier of Hunterdon County, New Jersey. (Robert was father of Tychicus Rose of Washington County, Pennsylvania; two tests from descendants of Tychicus match this group)

4. Israel Rose (m. Phebe) of Orange County, New York

5. John Rose (m. Rebeckah Bowen) of Harrison Co., Va.; Wolfe Co., Ky. [There are also some Brown DNA matches, from one or more adoptions.]

6. John Rose b. 1703, m. 1st Mary, 2nd Elizabeth, liv. of Salem Co., N.J., probable brother of Ezekiel Rose above who m. Mary Fidler

7. William Rose b. 1747, m. Mary DeWitt (she of Ulster Co., N.Y.), liv. Orange Co., N.Y. - he matches with the Roses who appear to be from Long Island

8. John Rose b. 1764, of Greene Co., Pa. (w. Hannah Addleman). John's parentage unknown.

9. Charles Rose b. c1819, liv. Somerset Co., Pa.

10. Descendant of Charles Rose (b. prob. 1759-1765), m. Rebeckah Mulliner, liv. Monongalia Co., Va. and previously Hunterdon Co., N.J., matched Ezekiel and Mary (Fidler) Rose of Hunterdon Co., N.J.

11. Samuel Rose (b. at least by 16 May 1714, m. Anna Duckworth, lived Burlington Co., N.J.) matched perfectly with several of the Long Island Roses. Samuel MAY be a son of Ephraim Rose, though not proven. Later another test from Samuel through son Samuel II who m. Hannah Carman was a match, as expected.

12. A descendant of Matthias Rose b. c1727, lived Albany and Saratoga Cos., New York and Canada, matches with Roses known to have come from Long Island, New York Roses.

13. Abraham Lacy Rose who m. Sarah Rose (daughter of Phillip Rose of Franklin Co., Ohio and granddaughter of Jachonias Rose of Westmoreland Co., Pa.) tested to be from the groups connected with Long Island Roses. It had been reported many times that Abraham Lacy Rose was not related to his wife Sarah Rose, and this test probably re-affirms this. [Additional note: A test from a descendant of Phillip Rose (through his son Stephen Rose) now does match with other Roses. See Group Y.

14. A test through Ezekiel Rose (m. Sarah Tharp/Thrap), believed to be a son of Ezekiel Rose (w. Mary Higgins, brother of Tychicus Rose). This test matches Ezekiel Rose's descendants with that of Tychicus Rose. There is no question that Tychicus Rose is related to Ezekiel Rose who married Sarah Thrap, based on DNA.

15. William Rose (m. Ruth Comstock) liv. Otsego Co., New York, father of George Washington Rose b. 1821 (m. Maria Balch) of LaSalle Co., Illinois. Appears because of a mutation to be most closely connected with Charles Rose (who m. Rebeckah Mulliner) of Group K.

16. Jeremiah "Arose" of Long Island and South Amboy, New Jersey most closely matches Lemuel Rose of Group K.

17. Samuel Rose (m. Sarah Caton), b. c1795, Sidney, Ontario, Canada, father of George W. Rose (m. Amy Ketcheson).

18. William Rose (m. Sarah Resides) b. c1840 Centre, Pa., matches especially closely with some of the tests from the John Rose who m. Rebekah Bowen group. It is believed that William is a descendant of Israel Rose of that family.

19. A descendant of Daniel Rose (b. c1792, m. Lucinda --, he b. Maryland or Maine) lived Randolph County, Arkansas, matches with Group K, the Long Island Roses. The testee descended from Daniel's son Napoleon Bonaparte Rose.

20. Another branch of the John Rose of Salem Co., N.J. family - this one through Abraham 2, Wm 3, William S. 4, George Washington 5 Rose; family of Union Co., Indiana.

21. A descendant of Henry Matthias Rose bc1835 New York, later lived Barron Co., Wisc., m. Mary Gumbert) is a match to Group K, the Long Island Rose families.

22. Emanuel Rose who married Margaret Hise and Amanda Norris, born c1794, lived Cherokee County, North Carolina and Fannin County, Georgia, through son Enoch Rose (Polly Crisp).

23. A test through Robert Rose bc1770-80, m. Jane Cree, liv. Washington Co. Pa. and Montgomery Co. Ky., through son John Rose

24. A descendant of Selah P. Rose (w Eunice H.) 1822 Kennebec ME and LI, NY through George W. Rose 1858 is a match to the Long Island Roses, Group J1, in particular to Lemuel Rose (w Amy Wicks) b. 1754.

25. A descendant of Vine Baldwin Rose (w Sally Curtis) 1824, f/o William Hudson Rose (w Maude Harvey), matches Group K, the Long Island group. His exact connection to that group is not known.

Note: Descendants of John and Rebekah (Bowen) Rose of Harrison County, Virginia and Wolfe County, Kentucky are related but split off as Grouup K1. See below.

GROUP K1

JOHN ROSE OF WOLFE CO., KENTUCKY; VIRGINIA

Includes tests from descendants of:

Wm. Brown (m. Sarah Lewis) c 1771 and James Brown (name of their ROSE ancestor through John Rose is unknown)
Robert Rose (m Esther Moore) son of John
David Rose (son of John) m Sally Nichol)
John Rose (son of John) m. Polly Morrow
Samuel Rose (son of John) m Virginia Wasson
Israel Rose (son of John) m Mary Dixon
Powell Rose (son of John) m. Nancy Ingram

GROUP K2

JAMES ROSE OF PR. WILLIAM CO., VIRGINIA

Project Administrator David W. Brown, after seeing the results of a 2009 test from another descendant of James Rose of Prince William County, Virginia, has now determined from the 37 marker test that this group from James, though connected to Group K, is considerably more distantly related to him earlier across the pond. David has therefore split this James Rose group into K2.

24. James Ellis Rose of Prince William Co., Pa.,  born ca 1755, married Jane Conover

The above Roses match closely in 25 marker tests, indicating a relationship. These tests would give weight to the consideration that all the above families had Long Island connections.

COMMENTS: In an exciting result of a DNA test, the exact generation of a relationship was determined! This is unusual, but it did happen to this "lucky" testee. According to David Brown our Project Administrator, this came about as the result of two tests.

First, a test was conducted on a descendant of Ezekiel Rose of Hunterdon Co., N.J.. (b. ca 1705, m. Mary Fidler) father of Ezekiel Rose (b. sometime before 7 Aug. 1747, m. Mary Field), father of Ezekiel Rose (b. 1779, m. Francine "Frankie" Brittain). This test showed close matches to other Rose families known to have Long Island, New York connections.

In a later test, the testee descends from Jonathan Rose (b. ca 1807, wife Jane, lived Hunterdon Co., N.J.) whose death record shows his father as John Rose. Nothing further was known. But through the testing, we now know that John was a son of Ezekiel Rose who married Mary Field.

David (David Brown, our Project Administrator) explains that there was a mutation and that the testees of the two families mentioned above are the ONLY ones of the Long Island matches that have this mutation. David further explains that the mutation had to occur upon the birth of the Ezekiel Rose (b. before 7 Aug. 1747) and thus, the two testees would be be descended from a son (or two sons) of this Ezekiel. In this case, since the death record of Jonathan Rose whows his father to be named John, it is determined that John and Ezekiel (m. Francine Brittain) were brothers.

GROUP L

JOHN ROSE FAMILY OF KING GEORGE/STAFFORD COS., VIRGINIA (FATHER OF BENNET ROSE OF NORTH CAROLINA)
JOHN ROSE OF CENTRE CO., PENNSYLVANIA,
JOHN ROSE OF WHITE CO., TENNESSEE,
BENJAMIN ROSE OF ROBERTSON CO., TENNESSEE

See also Group L1.

The members of Group L are all established to be very closely related to John Rose of Stafford/King George Co., VA, who m. Lucy Bennet in 1730; and son Bennet Rose b. 1731 later of Surry/Wilkes Co., NC.   They are represented by two well document descendants Abner b. 1763, through Bennett 1788
DNA results from descendants of the following establish they are very closely related, and possibly directly descended:

John Rose (b. ca 1770 NC, m. Phebe), who lived in Surry Co., NC & White Co., TN.
Benjamin Rose (b. ca 1770-75 N.C., m. Mary or Polly), later in Robertson Co., TN.  Two tests through son John 1804.  67 markers.

John Rose (b. 1802, m. Catharine Craig) who lived in Centre Co., PA.  One 67 marker test through son William Craig Rose. An extension of a test from a descendant of John Rose (m. Catharine) of Centre Co., Pennsylvania has enabled our Project Administrator to estimate that John was a descendant of John and Lucy (Bennet) Rose (rather than just related to them).

William H. Rose (b. ca1816 m. Elizabeth DeVault) of Knox Co., VA, Ross Co., OH, & Greene Co., IL also matches with this group. It is believed though not totally proven that William H. Rose was a son of Lewis and Sarah (Birdsong) Rose of Brunswick Co., Virginia who moved into Ross Co., Ohio. This match was a complete surprise!

In addition, there are two perfect matches at 37 markers, both close to this family in VA & NC.  The surnames are Hall & Sandy.  As neither have matches within their own surnames, both would very likely be originally of Rose fathers, through adoption. 

GROUP L1

DONALD ROSE OF PERTHSHIRE, SSCOTLAND
ALEXANDER ROSE OF INVERGORDON, SCOTLAND
WILLIAM ROSE OF FAYETTE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA

See also Group L.

Group L1 are all estimated to share a common ROSE ancestor prior to emigration to America.  They are also estimated to share a common ancestor with Group L (above), since the surname became meaningful.
These include:

A descendant of Donald Rose, of Perthshire, Scotland.  His results suggest he would share a common Rose ancestor with the Bennet  Rose about the 15th Century, plus or minus, likely in Scotland.  Donald was born in the 1840's in Perthshire, and died in the 1920's. He and his wife Annie Wood had among their children a son James Wood Rose born 22 February 1882.  The participant remains a resident of Scotland.

Three descendants of Alexander Rose (b ca1750, m Isabel McKenzie) of Invergordon, Scotland, through his son John Rose (b 1775, m. Bella Calder) indicate a fairly close relationship in Group L1, although slightly more distant to Group L,  This family settled at Picton, Nova Scotia, Canada, where it still has a presence, although early branches also went to MA & NY. Three sons of John 1775 are represented, Alexander 1799, James 1808, & David 1820.  Two of these were surprises, but their links into the family were documented following the tests.

William Rose (b ca1755, m. Elizabeth Alton) who was born in Maryland, and lived Westmoreland and Fayette Cos., PA is also indicated to share a relationship to the above.
As these all have a very common general Y-DNA pattern, there are 2-3 others that could share a distant meaningful relationship, it is estimated to extend well into the past, about the time the Surname took hold.

GROUP M

GEORGE ROSE OF POLK CO., TENNESSEE
GREEN ROSE OF COCKE CO., TENNESSEE
TORMUT ROSE OF BLOCK ISLAND, RHODE ISLAND
GEORGE ROSE OF LAURENS CO., SOUTH CAROLINA
WILLIAM STILLWELL ROSE OF MONMOUTH CO., NEW JERSEY with relationships also to Group M1

New input November 2005: David Brown, Project Administrator, discussed the Group M and M1 families at length with one of the experts at the FamilyTree DNA conference. After providing the expert with the results of all of the participants in Group M and M1, and with extension of markers to 37 in some of these tests, the chances of a relationship between Groups M and M1 are very high. (Group M1 was previously labeled as Group N, but now, because of the relationship, has been redesignated as M1.)

There is a close match of a descendant of Green Rose of Cocke Co., Tennessee (m. Lydia Black and Charity Taylor) to the George Rose Family (b. 1790 S.C.) of Polk Co., Tennessee. Also closely matched is a descendant of Tormut 1 Rose of Block Island, Rhode Island, here by the 1660s. The descendant who tested on this line has lived on Block Island all his life. And, in a new match in November 2005, a desendant of George Rose of Laurens Co., South Carolina matches this group.

In addition, there are some close matches that may indicate a relationship. A descendant of William Stillwell Rose Sr. b. ca 1826 (m. Abigail VanHise) of Monmouth Co., New Jersey matches fairly close. There is also some indication that this group MIGHT be connected to Francis Rose (m. Elizabeth Ford) of Buncombe Co., North Carolina who had branches in Polk Co., Tennessee.

GROUP M1
FRANCIS ROSE OF BUNCOMBE CO., NC (see also Group M)
SAMUEL ROSE OF BUNCOMBE AND MACON COS., NC (and JOHN JOHNSON ROSE,
HIS SON OF GRANDSON)
JOHN ROSE SR. OF BURKE CO., NC
ISAIAH ROSE OF WASHINGTON CO., TN
JACOB ROSE OF BURKE CO., NC AND GREENE CO., TN,
JACOB ROSE OF CARTER CO., KY
THOMAS WESLEY ROSE, TN, WV
SAMUEL ROSE OF WILKES CO., NC
JOHN ROSE OF PULASKI AND McCREARY COS., KY; NC
With relationship to Group M

New input November 2005: David Brown, Project Administrator, discussed the Group M and M1 families at length with one of the experts at the FamilyTree DNA conference held in the Washington DC area in November. After providing the expert with the results of all of the participants in Group M and N, and with extension of markers to 37 in some of these tests, the chances of a relationship between Groups M and M1 are very high.

This is an interesting group, tying together Francis Rose of Buncombe and Burke Counties, North Carolina (who married Elizabeth Ford and later lived McMinn County, Tennessee and other locations) to Samuel Rose, revolutionary pensioner of Buncombe and Macon County, North Carolina (his probable father).

Also connected is John Rose Jr. of Burke County, North Carolina, born ca 1755-1774, who may have married Mary Stafford and/or Mary Hancock. He was father of Wilson Rose b. ca 1807-1808 (m. 1st Virginia "Jennie" Vance, 2nd Bethany Mullins), Samuel Rose b. ca 1807-1808 (m. Margaret "Peggy" Cantrell) and Elias Rose b. ca 1797 (m. Nancy Hill).

Isaiah Rose was born ca 1795, lived in Washington County, Tennessee, Cherokee Co., North Carolina and Winston County, Alabama. He 1st to Cassa Long, 2nd to Rachel Brown. Among his children was a son Nathaniel Rose of Arkansas and other localities.

Jacob Rose born 1765-17704 was a War of 1812 soldier, and died in that war leaving a widow Lydia Burchfield. They married in Burke County, North Carolina. After his death his widow moved with her family into Kentucky, living in Carter County and other Kentucky locations.

Also tied to this group is Robert Rose of Carter Co., Ky. who married Melinda Dyer. It had been thought that this Robert Rose could be connected to Jacob Rose who married Lydia Burchfield, but the exact tie is not know. However, DNA confirms there is a relationship.

A descendant of Thomas Wesley Rose (m. Bessie Osborne), of Va. is connected with this group. Thomas Rose may be a son of John Rose and Mary or Nancy Harper, but other records indicate his parents were A. C. and Wilner Rose. Family had Wise Co., W. Va. connections. Thomas d. 1943 Monroe Co., W. Va.

A descendant of Samuel Rose (b. ca 1757, m. Lydia Sizemore), through their son Charles Rose born ca 1780-1800 who had a wife named Priscilla, matches this group. This family lived in Wilkes and Ash Counties, North Carolina.

John Rose b. ca 1800 North Carolina, married Abigail Vanover, and lived in Pulaski and McCreary Cos., Kentucky has a match with Group M1.

Isaiah Rose of Washington Co., Tenn., Cherokee Co., N.C. and Winston Co., Ala. tests with the Buncombe Co. group, as does John Rose of Burke Co., N.C. (father of Wilson, Samuel and Elias and related to John Mc Rose). These recent tests also put the whole group closer to the Tormut Rose of Block Island, R.I. and Polk Co., Tenn. group. A descendant of Isaiah Rose of Washington Co., Tenn., Cherokee Co., N.C., and Winston Co., Ala. matches with descendants of Francis Rose of Buncombe Co., N.C.

A descendant of John Rose of Burke Co., N.C. also matches this group. (This is the John Rose who was father of Elias, Wilson and Samuel Rose, and related to John Mc Rose.) The results of these recent tests also put these Roses even closer to Polk Co., Tenn. and Tormut Rose of Block Island, R.I.

A descendant of John Johnson Rose, probable son or grandson of Samuel Rose, born 14 March 1816 (Bible), married first, April 1836, Rebecca Henly/Hemby; m. 2nd, 1860, Margaret Louisa (Chambers?) Powell, a widow. John Johnson Rose was of Macon and Cherokee Cos., North Carolina.

GROUP N
ISAAC ROSE of Washington and Mercer Cos., Pa.

Isaac Rose, revolutionary pensioner, m. Margaret Leyda. Isaac lived in Washington and Mercer Cos., Pa. There are two matches through different sons, but so far no match to other Rose families.

GROUP O
ROBERT ROSE OF MONTGOMERY CO., MD AND WASHINGTON D.C. AND
GEORGE ROSE OF ESSEX CO., VIRGINIA
RICHARD ROSE OF SCOTT CO., INDIANA, ILLINOIS AND VIRGINIA

A descendant of the early George Rose (who m. Delphia Taylor and Dicey Marlow) of Essex Co., Virginia matches with descendants of Robert Rose of Montgomery Co., Md. (father of Benjamin F. Rose later of Texas). This family MAY be descended from Thomas Rose of Bedford Co., Va.

Descendants of Richard Rose, revolutionary pensioner of Virginia, (m. Elizabeth Morris) who lived in Kentucky, Hancock Co., Illinois and Scott Co., Indiana, through his sons Francis Rose (m. Mary Hale) and Adam G. Rose (who m. Denise Wilson). (For Stephen Rose, raised by Richard Rose, see Group OX.)

A descendant of Richard Rose of Kentucky, Scott Co., Indiana etc. (m. Mary Hale) is of this group. He may be a son of Richard Rose, the revolutionary pensioner mentioned above.

Another descendant of Richard Rose of Scott Co., Ind. an Hancock Co., Ill. through Adam G. Rose matches Group O., as was expected.

GROUP OX
STEPHEN ROSE OF ILL., KY., MO. AND TEX.

It had been thought that Stephen Rose, named as one of the "children" in the revolutionary pension affidavit of Richard Rose of Scott Co., Indiana, Hancock Co., Illinois and Virginia was a son, but DNA shows otherwise. He may have been adopted, or raised by Richard Rose. Five descendants are in this Group OX.

GROUP P
WILLIAM ROSE OF HALIFAX COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA
JOSEPH ROSE OF MONTGOMERY/GILES COS., VIRGINIA AND
THOMAS ROSE OF FREDERICK AND WARREN COS., VIRGINIA

A descendant of William Rose (of age by 1753) of Edgecombe and Halifax Cos., North Carolina is a perfect 25/25 match with a descendant of Joseph Rose (m. Catherine Bowsman/Bausman) of Montgomery and Giles Cos., Virginia. Also matching William Rose is a descendant of Aaron Wesley Rose (b. 1869) of Montgomery Co., Tennessee.

A descendant of Aaron Wesley Rose who was b. 20 September 1869 and whose family lived at one time in Montgomery County, Tennessee matches with descendants of William Rose of Halifax County, North Carolina. Though the connection was not heretofore known, it is not unexpected since a branch of William Rose's family did move to Montgomery County, Tennessee. It is now believed that Aaron Wesley Rose may be the Aaron W. Rose who was son of Isaac J. Rose (listed 1870-1880 Montgomery County).

Also connected is Thomas Rose of Frederick Co., Va. and Warren Co., Va. who married Mary "Polly" Murphy and was father of James Rose b. ca1810. This had not been known.

A test of a descendant of Thomas R. Rose of Moore County, North Carolina who married Mary "Polly" Medlin is matched to Group P. They had a son (among other children) William David Rose 1849. This match had not been expected.

A descendant of William Washington Rose (m. Elizabeth Jane Harmon) liv. 1822 Allegheny VA through his son George Washington Rose (m. Lulu Hickman) matches Group P. This is a surprise.

A descendant of William Rose of Halifax Co., NC. (w Sarah Crawley) through his son Edmund Rose c1784 of N.C. and La. matches with Group P., as expected but is good confirmation.

GROUP Q
WILLIAM ROSE OF SCHOHARIE COUNTY, NEW YORK AND GERMANY
AND LAWRENCE ROSE OF NEW YORK

A descendant of John Rose b. 1772 (m. Rhoda Crippen), matches with a descendant of Lawrence Rose (b. 1787) who married Thankful Reynolds. John Rose is believed to be a son of William and Elizabeth (Schoolcraft) Rose of Germany and Schoharie County, New York. Lawrence Rose was of Rensselaer County, New York and Ohio. This match was unexpected!

In 2009 a test from Isaac Hobbs Rose (m. Anna Young) line (he 1790) through Adoniram Rose 1822 matches Group Q, the William and Elizabeth (Schoolcraft) Rose family. This was expected.

GROUP R
JAMES ROSE OF WAYNE CO., TENNESSEE AND
CHARLES ROSE OF WAYNE CO., TENNESSEE

James Rose born ca 1810, and who was in Wayne County, Tennessee by 1840, matches with a Charles Rose who was born about 1804 and also lived in Wayne County. Their origins are unknown but they are not related to the large Frederick Rose family of Wayne County.

GROUP S
THOMAS ROSE OF KENTUCKY AND BOURBON CO., KANSAS
JOHN CALVIN ROSE OF NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE AND
SAMUEL ROSE OF BERKELEY CO., WEST VIRGINIA, OHIO, AND LEE CO., IOWA
NATHAN ROSE OF BURKE CO., NORTH CAROLINA
CAPT. JOSEPH ROSE OF NEW YORK CITY
HENRY L. ROSE OF WASHINGTON, DC

A descendant of John Calvin Rose b. 1859, lived Nashville, Tennessee matches with a descendant of Thomas J. Rose b. ca 1823-24 in Kentucky, lived in Missouri and in Bourbon County, Kansas. This Thomas J. Rose's 1st wife unknown. He married 2nd to Elizabeth M. Daughtey. (It is possible but not proven that John Calvin Rose was the son of a C. A. Rose.)

And in another unexpected match, Samuel Rose b. ca 1821, lived Berkeley Co., West Virginia, Hamilton Co., Ohio, and VanBuren and Lee Cos., Iowa also matched this group. Samuel married Mary Ann Bloomer.

And, a complete surprise, a descendant of Nathan Rose, born ca 1805, who married in 1829 Burke County, North Carolina to Rebecca Rowan, and later of Bount County, Tennessee, matches with this group. This match was a complete surprise.

A descendant of Henry Rose who married Mary Bowen, through their son Francis Rose 1888 Washington, D.C. matches Group S, the Capt. Joseph Rose group of New York City, and other Roses.

GROUP T
ALDERT HEYMANSE ROOSA OF ULSTER CO., NEW YORK
JOHN ROSE OF BROOME CO., NEW YORK
JOHN ROSE OF ULSTER CO., NEW YORK AND GREENE CO., PENNSYLVANIA
ALLEN THEODORE ROSE OF UNION CO., IOWA
GILBERT ROSE OF ULSTER CO., NEW YORK
AND
SAMUEL ROSE OF
DUTCHESS CO., NEW YORK AND VERMONT
ELISHA ROSE OF ONTARIO CO., NEW YORK
WILLIAM ROSE OF CLARK CO., INDIANA

Many matches have been made to the early ROOSA family of Ulster County, New York. One of the latest matches is that of a descendant of William Rose of Montgomery and Saratoga Counties, New York (d. 1883; father of Moses Rose, later of Jefferson County, New York).

A descendant of John Rose (b. ca 1740) who married 1st, Lucy Boardman, and 2nd, Katherine Wheeler, and who lived in Broome Co., New York, tests as a ROOSA. John was previously in records of Litchfield County, Connecticut.

Descendants of John R. Rose of Ulster Co., New York, Greene Co., Pennsylvania and Meigs Co., Ohio, who married Annie Cox, confirm that John's descendants are members of the ROOSA family of Ulster County.

A descendant of Allen Theodore Rose of N.Y., b. 1846-50, m. Elizabeth Jones, lived Union Co., Iowa, matches with the ROOSA family.

In addition, a number of tests on descendants of Samuel Rose of Dutchess Co., New York and Bennington Co., Vermont (m. Sarah Reynolds) prove that Samuel is a ROOSA, connected to Roosa of Ulster Co., New York. The tests represent several sons of Samuel, i.e. Samuel Jr., Abraham, Joel and Joshua.

A descendant of Gilbert Rose of Ulster County, New York is proven to be a ROOSA descendant. It is suspected that Gilbert was a son of William and Annetje "Hannah" (Wolven) Rose of Ulster County, New York. It is hoped that more tests will be taken from other branches of this family, for further confirmation. Any males carrying the name of Rose/Roosa who have a proven line to William who married Annetje Wolven would be welcome to take the DNA test.

A descendant of Aldert 1 Roosa, Jan 2 Roosa, Aldert 3 Roosa (m. Rebeccha Schepmoes), Abraham 4 Roosa (m. Elizabeth Rutsz), Jacob 5 Roosa (m. 1st Elizabeth Louw, 2nd Catrina Feltie), of Hamilton County, Ohio, is a match.

A descendant of Elisha and Rebecca (Hubbel) Rose of Ontario Co., New York, son Elisha m. 1st Olive McLellan and 2nd Amelia/Milly Haws and lived Indiana, matches with the Ulster Co., New York ROOSA family, Group T.

A Rosa living in the Czech Republic matches Group T of our DNA project! It may not be possible to learn of the exact relationship, but nonetheless, this is exciting and interesting news.

There is a match of a descendant of Samuel 1 Rose, of Dutchess Co., New York and Bennington Co., Vermont, through his son Samuel jr. who m. Chloe Canfield, and John Levi 3 Rose b. 1788 m. Isabella Boulton to Group T.

A descendant of William E. Rose who married Sarah Golden (of Clark Co., Indiana, through son David H. Rose) has tested at 37 markers to be a ROOSA.

A descendant of William E. Rose who married Sarah Golden (of Clark Co., Indiana, through son David H. Rose) has tested at 37 markers to be a ROOSA.

NOTE: The Rose Family Association and the DNA Project Administrator have received inquiries as to whether the Roosa of Ulster County, New York have Middle Eastern [or Jewish] connections. The DNA pattern clearly indicates very early Northwestern European connections, and is not indicative of any Middle Eastern origins, either directly or indirectly. [This has nothing to do with religious beliefs.]

Following is a communication that David W. Brown, our Project Administrator, sent to Roosa descendants. This is quite exciting, for it shows the tremendous value of DNA. In this case, the America Roosas have been connected with their Dutch family.

"For several months I have been in contact with Cor Selders in Holland, who played a major role in the preparation of a history of the Roosa/Rosa/Roza family in Dutch some time ago. He cooperated very closely, and arranged for a DNA test to be completed on a descendant of his line, a cousin Willem Roza. The most recent common ancestor our American Immigrant Aeldert [Roosa] was supposed to share with him was Gijsberts Geurts, born about 1550 AD, grandfather of Aeldert, as Willem is descended through his uncle Abraham.

"The complete results of this test arrived ... and are a perfect match with most of the 22 previous tests we have had from Aeldert's descendants! This proves beyond any doubt that this connection is valid, and Aeldert was very closely related to this Abraham! Their Dutch book also provides lineage back two more generations past Gijsberts, to about 1500.

"It is actually quite unusual to have a perfect Y-DNA match over that period of time, as slight mutations can be expected. There are none in this case, as the DNA pattern of our Roosa family is extremely stable. So much so, that for anyone that provides a test, we are able to define very easily whether or not they are indeed a part of our family."

GROUP U
JAMES ROSE of Surry Co., England and Cumberland Co., England
RICHARD ROSE of Va., and Knox & Harrison Cos., Indiana
GEORGE W. ROSE of Jackson Co., Alabama & Tennessee
THOMAS ROSE of England, Jefferson Co., New York, Jefferson Co., Wisconsin
JAMES ROSE of Guernsey & Belmont Cos., Ohio
ELEANOR ROSE (believed to be nee Crabb, wife of John Rose), Franklin Co., Tennessee

James Rose (m. Sarah) b. ca 1793 England; father of James Jr. b. 1814 of Surry and Cumberland Cos., England matches with Richard Rose b. ca 1811 Virginia, d. 1848 Knox Co., Indiana, father of James Harvey Rose b. 1847, of Harrison, Indiana.

Further, George Washington Rose of Jackson Co., Alabama and Tennessee also matches others of this group.

Additionally, James Rose (wife Mary Shafer\Schaefer) b. 1810 Va. matches.

In a new test in 2005, from a descendant of Thompson Rose who m. Mary McCoy, there is a very close match to James Rose (m. Mary Shafer/Schaefer) indicating that surely these two Roses are related closely in the Thompson Rose family. It is believed that James (who m. Mary) is a brother of John (who m. Jane Sharrock) though that specific relationship must be proved. Also connected through DNA is Clarence W. Rose of Poweshiek Co., Iowa who appears to be son of John W. Rose, and possible grandson of George W. and Hannah (Robbins) Rose of Guernsey Co., Ohio.

A descendant of John Rose who married Martha Huffman (ca1810 Va-1895) through his son John Rose matches with this group. Family lived Tippecanoe Co., Indiana and other localities.

Eleanor Rose (believed to be nee Crabb, wife of John Rose), of Franklin Co., Tennessee.

[These lucky descendant, in matching with a Rose of England, now know where to look further for their ancestors!]

GROUP V
MONTGOMERY ROSE of Tennessee and Missouri
ALEXANDER ROSE of Pennsylvania/Tennessee? and Arkansas

Montgomery Rose (wife Rebecca) was b. ca 1815 in Tennessee; later of Pulaski/Wright Counties, Missouri matches with Alexander Rose was b. ca 1810 in either Pennsylvania or Tennessee, married Rachel Pruitt, and later lived Hempstead County, Arkansas.

GROUP W
JOHN ROSE OF HARRISON CO., OHIO
SAMUEL ROSE OF BERKELEY CO., WEST VIRGINIA AND HARRISON CO., OHIO

John Rose (m. Elizabeth Caves), of Harrison Co., Ohio matches with Samuel Rose (wife Amy Matson) of Berkeley Co., West Virginia; Harrison Co., Ohio. [Interestingly, another Samuel Rose of Berkeley County, West Virginia, later of Iowa, does not match this group.]

A descendant of Samuel Rose (m2Nancy Jarrett), parents of Isaac (Mary Colvin) 1835 Belmont Ohio, match with Group W, the Samuel and Amy (Matson) Rose family of Ohio.

GROUP X
AN ADOPTED ROSE
CHARLES ROSE OF GALLATIN CO., KY AND KING GEORGE CO., VIRGINIA
GEORGE ROSE OF FAYETTE CO., KENTUCKY

A descendant of Charles Rose of Gallatin Co., Ky. (born 1756 King George Co., Va., died in Gallatin Co., Kentucky, m. 1st Miss Hutchison, 2nd Lucinda 'Goings) did not match with any Roses, but did match with three Thorntons in a Thornton DNA project. This confirms information which some of that family's branches had that there was an adoption in this group of Roses. In this case, it seems clear that Charles Rose was a Thornton by birth, and thus the reason he named one of his own sons Thornton Rose. This testing shows again the power of DNA tests, which in this case confirmed a family's tradition.

A descendant of George Rose of Fayette Co., Kentucky is very closely connected to Charles Rose of Gallatin Co., Kentucky. The latter, Charles Rose, was a Revolutionary soldier, previously of King George Co., Va. but later of Gallatin Co., Kentucky. Charles' descendant matched perfectly with three THORNTON men, indicating that his surname was Thornton, not Rose. However, there still exists the possibility this family had a Rose in their ancestry for it could be that that the mother or grandmother was a Rose. George Rose, the ancestor of the recent testee, was born sometime before 1755, and married Jane Nixon. Among his children were: Leroy b. 1776-1780 m. Judith Cloud; Isaac b. 1780-1790 m Alsey Kirkpatrick; Lewis bc1798 m Margaret Kirkpatrick; Lucy m. Nicholas Morgan. Agewise, it is possible that George Rose and Charles Rose were brothers.

Group X: Another test from Lew Rose (m. Margaret Kirkpatrick) 1798 of Fayette Co., Ky. tends to confirm he was son of George Rose 1755. They also match with possible brother Charles Rose, b. 1756 Va., another early settler of Fayette Co. Their DNA strongly indicates a close connection to a very prominent Thornton family of Northumberland Co., Va.

GROUP Y
JACONAIS ROSE [JACHONIAS ROSE] OF WESTMORELAND CO., PENNSYLVANIA
FRANKLIN ROSE OF ILLINOIS AND MISSOURI
SIMON ROSE OF LONG ISLAND, SUFFOLK CO., NEW YORK

A descendant of Franklin Rose b. 1860 Ill.,(wife Clara Calcell), who lived Bates Co., Mo., matches with a descendant of Jaconias Rose of Westmoreland Co., Pa. (father of Phillip Rose of Franklin Co., Ohio). This was unexpected and provides a new avenue of search.
A huge surprise. A test from a descendant of what we have thought was Robert 1, John 2, Martyn 3, Zaccheus 4 Moses 5, Simon 6 Rose of Long Island does not match with Group K, but matches with Group Y. More investigation is needed on this lineage.

GROUP Z
DAVID ROSE OF PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA
JOSEPH/WILLIAM L. ROSE OF VANDERBURGH CO., INDIANA

A descendant of David and Abigail (Busby) Rose of Philadelphia matches with a descendant of William L. Rose of Vanderburgh Co., Ind. William L. is likely the William L. listed with Joseph Rose of 1850 White Co., Illinois whose family came out of Vanderburgh Co., Indiana. This Joseph Rose appears to be a part of the Joseph Rose family of Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania and Sullivan County, Tennessee who had members who went into Vanderburgh Co., Indiana.

GROUP AA
JESSE ROSE of Hamilton Co., Illinois

Two tests have matched, both descended from this progenitor. Jesse Rose married Julia Clark (the line which tested) and also had other wives. The tests were from the line of his son William.

A descendant of John Calvin Rose who was born 3 October 1873 in Monroe County, Arkansas, died there 26 September 1950, married in 1912 Hattie Mae Allcox, matches with Group AA.

GROUP BB
WILLIAM ROSE OF BEDFORD CO., PENNSYLVANIA

Tests of descendants, through the son Allen Rose, and through son Edward Rose, have matched. William Rose c1715 (wife Mary) left a number of descendants in this area.

Another descendant of Allen Rose (son of William Rose of Bedford Co., Pa.) matches Group BB as was expected.

GROUP CC
ADAM ROSE OF CAMBRIA CO., PENNSYLVANIA
DAVID ROSE OF CAMBRIA CO., PENNSYLVANIA
HANS ROSER OF YORK CO., PENNSYLVANIA

Tests from descendants of Adam Rose (c1779-1847) who m. Elizabeth Helsel) and one from David Rose (c1833-64) who m. Elizabeth Seese) match. And, a descendant of George Rose b. ca 1850 in Germany, m. Helen L. Shaw, and lived Middlesex Co., N.J. matches this group.

Hans Roser (son of Laurentius Roser of Baden, Germany) m. Catherine Kramer. hans was born c1725 in Baden, Germany, immigrated to York Co., Pennsylvania perhaps in 1750. Hans had a son named Adam but this not the not the Adam b. 1770 of Cambria Co., Pennsylvania though there are in some way related.

GROUP DD
THOMAS ROSE OF BUCKS, ENGLAND
WALTER W. ROSE OF BIRMINGHAM, ENGLAND

In an exciting match of two Roses whose ancestors were from England, there is a perfect 25/25 match with a descendant of Thomas Rose (wife Ann Leonard) 1806 of Bucks, England to Erie, NY in 1837, and a Rose descended from Walter W. Rose 1881 (m. Florence Lycett 1909) of Birmimgham, England.

GROUP EE
PETER ROSE OF PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA
JEAN ROSE

A descendant of Peter Rose born ante 1725, lived Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, married Mary Gardner, matches with a descendant of Jean Rose, father of Jean Rose (who married Jean Ingrouille, born ca 1700 of Guernsey, Channel Islands.

A descendant of Benjamin Franklin McMasters Rose born ca 1835, m. Sarah Elizabeth Smith, (he son of John 3, Peter 2, Peter 1 Rose of Philadelphia, Pa.) matches with the Peter Rose family of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Benjamin lived in Jefferson County, Iowa.

GROUP FF
HENRY ROSE OF SULLIVAN CO., NY AND OHIO

Two tests from descendants of Henry Roosa (Mary Hawkins)1793-1880 Sullivan NY/Lorain O; through son James. However, they are not related to all the other Roosas of Ulster County, New York.

GROUP GG
BENJAMIN ROSE OF MACON & PUTNAM COS., MISSOURI

A descendant of Benjamin Rose (b. ca 1808-09) of Virginia and Putnam and Macon Cos., Missouri, though son Benjamin R. Rose, is a match with a descendant John, another son of Benjamin. Benjamin 1 Rose married 1st to Sarah Ann Holman, and 2nd to Elizabeth Ann Robbins. This group has a rare haplotype.

GROUP HH

THOMAS ROSE OF SCITUATE, MASSACHUSETTS

A descendant of Thomas 1, Jeremiah 2, Gideon 3, Thomas 4 tested. Those below match.
A descendant of Thomas 1, Jeremiah 2, Gideon 3, Jeremiah 4 matches the above.
A descendant of Thomas 1, Jeremiah 2, Thomas 3, Thomas 4 matches the above.

A surprise! A descendant of James Rose (m. Emma) c1800 of Comfort Cove, Newfoundland, through his son Stephen Rose (wife Mary Ann?) c1831 Twillingate, and the latter's son James (who m. Harriet) unexpectedly matches PERFECTLY in Group HH.

A very surprising result!! A descendant of James Rose (w Dinah Bull) 1795 Dorset, England, f/o Thomas Rose (w Eliza Hutchings) 1819, is a definite match to Thomas Rose of Scituate, Mass. (our Group HH). Thus, finally, it would appear that the American group has a very good lead to the location of their English ancestors.

GROUP II

NICHOLAS ROSE OF QUEBEC

A descendant of Nicholas, father of Noel (w Marie de Monmainer)* 1642 Quebec, f/o Charles 1679.

A descendant of Nicholas, f/o Noel 1642 St. Etienne du Mont, Parish to Quebec 1666; f/o Joseph.

A descendant of William Rose (w Eliz Ferguson) 1785 Conn., f/o Aaron Rose (w Mariah Everett) 1818 Seneca, N.Y./Newago, Mich., has an unexpected match to this group.

GROUP JJ

A ROSE FAMILY OF DELAWARE AND NORTH CAROLINA

Descendant of Edward (w Eleanor) 1805, f/o Thos. Martin Rose (w Molly Midyett) 1850 Tyrell, N.C.

A descendant of Truman Rose (w Dorothy) d1783 Sussex Co., Del., f/o Truman Rose (w Mary W. Tull) d 1838.

GROUP KK

A HARDY ROSE OF NASH CO., NORTH CAROLINA AND GEORGIA

Two tests from Hardy Rose (w Polly Freeman), father of James Rose (w Sadie Kelly) match each other but don't match any other Rose group at this time.

AN IMPORTANT UNMATCHED ROSE
ISAAC ROSE OF MERCER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA

A descendant of Isaac Rose of Washington and Mercer Cos., Pennsylvania, who married Margaret Leyda, does not yet have any matches. BUT, the lack of a match is very helpful on this family for we had thought he might match to a Roosa since Margaret Leyda came out of one of the Dutch families of Ulster Co., New York. Now that has been eliminated, and it still may be possible that Isaac Rose of Pennsylvania is related to Andrew Rose of Bucks and Mercer Counties, Pennsylvania.

ROSE FAMILY ASSOCIATION
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